We are conscious of only a tiny fraction of the information that our brains process in each moment. Although we continually notice changes in our experience— in thought, mood, perception, behavior, etc.— we are utterly unaware of the neurophysiological events that produce them. In fact, we can be very poor witnesses to experience itself. By merely glancing at your face or listening to your tone of voice, others are often more aware of your state of mind and motivations than you are.
I generally start each day with a cup of coffee or tea— sometimes two. This morning, it was coffee (two). Why not tea? I am in no position to know. I wanted coffee more than I wanted tea today, and I was free to have what I wanted. Did I consciously choose coffee over tea? No. The choice was made for me by events in my brain that I, as the conscious witness of my thoughts and actions, could not inspect or influence. Could I have “changed my mind” and switched to tea before the coffee drinker in me could get his bearings? Yes, but this impulse would also have been the product of unconscious causes. Why didn’t it arise this morning? Why might it arise in the future? I cannot know. The intention to do one thing and not another does not originate in consciousness— rather, it appears in consciousness, as does any thought or impulse that might oppose it.
Harris, Sam (2012-03-06). Free Will (pp. 7-8). Simon & Schuster, Inc.. Kindle Edition.
If there is no free-will, and all thoughts, feelings and behaviors are entirely influenced by influences that were themselves influenced by previous influences, which have therefore been influenced, how can we stake claim to a unique self-hood?
If every intention you claim as yours, is merely the product of previously developed neuro-circuitry, why intend anything at all except what you’re supposed to intend, which you cannot know until that intention circuit fires up in your brain? What choices need to be made that won’t be made and, if they’re not made, then they were not to be made anyway?
You intend nothing that is not already intended and your intention was intended long before you became aware of it and acted on it.
Why has it been so hard to just "enjoy the ride"?
You have no choice but to go wherever it takes you, why suffer through where you are (unless of course, this is what must be experienced).
I have written much that does not get posted here, but everything I have posted must be posted, else it simply would not be here. I have had no choice in the direction I have been influenced to follow, based on the circuits that direct "me." I have intended nothing.
If all thought is generated through predetermined neuro-circuits that have been influenced from birth by billions of internal and external experiences, generating ‘memory’ circuits of their own that will influence other circuits, is there still a self? If everything “you” are and everything identified with as “you,” had absolutely nothing to do with “you” or any sense of a free-willed ‘choice,’ can there even be a “you”?
The Egocentric self is defined, and experienced, on the belief in a will to make free and autonomous choices from its desires. But if those desires have been determined and subsequently influenced by other influenced desires, then so has each and every choice made up to now and ALL choices that will be made in the future...
....have already been made.
Hence, the obvious fact is that there is no “you” making choices. There is only a “you” experiencing choices made from previous determinations all the way back to the womb.
How can an ego-self, that is not free to make choices, be an ego-self when egocentricity demands the capacity to choose and has spent a lifetime developing and honing judgment circuits in the brain to enhance and emphasize that capacity?
You had no choice in your birth, just as you will have no choice in your death. But the "Good News" is that you have had, and will have, no choice in between either. If you have never had free-will to choose, do you even exist, other than as a lump of mobile flesh acting out pretensions that are not in any way based on the capacity to choose?
In a dream, choices need be made. When you awaken, no such illusion remains.
I have had numerous correspondence from many who have sought ways to spiritually transcend their individual egocentricity. But they experience anger in my attempts to show that an independent ego-self cannot be transcended, because it exists but with no capacity to make choices.
Clearly, egocentricity enjoys attempting to transcend itself and has built up centuries of theoretical texts to show the way. But this has always been a fools errand (but a necessary one).
You have shaped and molded NOTHING. All your self-actualizing, self-development techniques, to become an improved and happier “I-Me,” was nothing more than doing what you were genetically and socio-culturally conditioned to do. “You” had no choice, nor will you ever. Your intention to "transcend" you egocentricity has been influenced by past influences that have also been influenced, completely outside your control, with as about as much meaning and purpose as the intention to take out the trash. Everything you are now you have had to be. It was not under your control. “You” are out of the loop, simply because you have never been IN the loop.
Why suffer through right or wrong, good or bad choices, when each choice made…had to be made? You are on a "path" but in no way a product of your choosing or in any way influenced by any thoughts you think "you" conjure up "in the moment." Every moment you experience has been influenced by the moment before it, and so on, back to conception.
So now that you have read this and consider it (not just my words but the words of a reputable neuroscientist) what circuits are forming up that will influence other circuits? Will your belief circuits demand you ignore this post or maybe seek out a memory-based linguistic circuit to refute the obvious? Or will you suddenly experience less intensity of “mind,” with less of a need to invest in any particular ideology or "path," because if there is no free and autonomous “you,” what good is any choice "you" make? What about your constant daily struggle to maintain a fixed self based on past and future choices? Does it matter?
It really makes no difference what you choose, simply because you will choose what you MUST.
But...if you're following your guru then...
..."And now you do what they told ya.
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me"
(Rage Against the Machine)
Artwork - "Time Guardian"
Hi Mike,
ReplyDeleteWhat is the point?
I am trying to find meaning in this but it seems to be beyond my grasp. Maybe it is my socio-cultural conditioning, maybe it is brain damage. With regard to choice. Are you proposing that one is just a victim of circumstance? That one are doomed to live out a story that has been written in genes and memes? That we are like machines running pre-programmed routines?
In the broadest sense I agree with that. I also have a curiosity, a need to push the boundaries of what is possible with this machine and the environment in which it operates. That is probably also not a choice but a programmed routine.
Thanks for stimulating the circuits.
Gil
Looks like you got the point pretty well....
ReplyDeleteIt's hard to grapple with for an ego that bases it's whole existence, between birth and death, on making the right choices.
The "right" choices? Are we talking pragmatism here? The only "right" choices are the choices that ensure survival. You wont necessarily be aware of making a wrong choice because you will be dead. Maybe a split second recognition. That "oh sh**t" moment. The only way you know you are making the right choices is evidenced by your continued existence. There are certain choices that you can make regarding the way you experience this existence, but in terms of the big picture, not many. But in terms of the little picture (the ego) there are lots of things you can do with lemons, including just letting them be.
ReplyDeleteGil
Even choices that insure survival are not up to "you," just an illusion of control, itself not up to you. Hence, "your continued existence" is out of your control.
ReplyDeleteIndeed, there is much you can do with lemons, none being in your capacity to control. Each choice has a precedent, that your brain will often not allow you to be aware of.
Thanks!
Interesting posts. Loved the Rage Against The Machine insert. Thanks.
ReplyDeleteI'm new here. Just 'extracted' myself from another forum...McKenna's. Lot of anger and resistance there. This already feels a bit more together and relaxed and open to inteligent exchanges. Thanks Mike.
Bo
Hi Bo,
ReplyDelete"Lot of anger and resistance there."
Hmmm...actually what I saw was a lotta babies in need of cuddling and a momma who fulfilled that need.
No need to get annoyed over an historically repetitive theme...
Thanks,
Mike
Yes, no need to get annoyed, however, I was a bit surprised that the gentleman who supposedly wrote the 3 books with the 'tough approach' to awakening would be so cuddling on the forum. 'Just goes to show you that things are not what they seem.' Jagger sang that in Sister Morphine.
ReplyDeleteAnd besides, have left that behind with another revelation with regards to many people in the Spiritual crowd. Revelations are good for the liver!
Thanks, again Mike. I look forward to further blogs/posts from you...
Bo
According to this self same blog post you might as well argue with a tiger about wearing striped fur, as argue that a person should not be concerned about the ‘decisions’ made by the ‘self.’ A person that believes in dualistic free will is compelled to do so, and can think no different, according to this argument, so what is the point hosting a blog and making arguments to the contrary?
ReplyDeleteOf course a brain can take in additional information and subtle change the underlying circuits that determine beliefs and attitudes, I just don’t understand the resistance to the idea that this happens in the conscious portion of the working brain.
"so what is the point hosting a blog and making arguments to the contrary?"
ReplyDeleteDon't know, dude. Sheit happens, I guess.
What compels you to comment?
I bet you "think" you know...
...but that's delusional.
Thanks!
Mike
"I bet you "think" you know...but that's delusional."
ReplyDeleteYou seem very enamored with your arguments, I suppose that is only natural. But outside the narrow neural loop of your argument, flaws seem manifestly evident. But, as to who’s zooming whom, I will leave for each to puzzle for themselves.
I do find your posts entertaining and provocative, and I find some little enjoyment from commenting upon them from time to time, or else I wouldn’t be here.
So, cheers…and keep up the good work!
Thanks Random,
ReplyDeleteYour comments are always welcome (and will always be posted).
Cheers back at ya!
Mike
Ya know, I enjoy these circuitry posts and find them interesting and whatnot, but what first made me so interested in your blog, and something that still really interests/resonates with me is all your posts on 'self and others' and 'fully engaged enlightenment.' It seems you shyed away from that and went on to the whole 'dream' theme for a while and now you're on to circuitry. I think the dream stuff and circuitry stuff are both getting more comments than most of your fully engaged enlightenment posts ever did, which is astounding to me... I thought you were really onto something with that! Anyway, I'm just wondering what your thoughts are now on the fully engaged enlightenment stuff... The "theres always a guide at the border" post comes to mind and I wonder if you are.... (defeated? complacent? I don't know the right word...) because you never crossed...I wonder the same of myself...
ReplyDeleteIt also seems like you started the blog with the goal of awakening and now you sort of see that whole thing in a different light/reject the idea of awaking... Any thoughts on that?
Thanks,
Luke
"It also seems like you started the blog with the goal of awakening and now you sort of see that whole thing in a different light/reject the idea of awaking... Any thoughts on that?"
ReplyDeleteIndeed, knowing that one 'exists' as nothing more than random firings, has surprisingly tended to engage alot of brain power in relation to comments here.
As far as "awakening." I'm afraid I have no idea what that is, though we cannot deny the concept is used ad nauseam.
I just go where the winds take me, and although some folks would like me to be more definitive, I sense it's not in my nature (brain?).
And who knows...
next month I may be vehemently proclaiming Dr. Seuss as "enlightened master." (which, of course, every one knows is true).
So that's the thing, Luke. I have no idea where these "circuitry" posts came from nor do I know from whence the "fully engaged enlightenment" posts came from.
I guess I just wait and see what comes up...
Thanks!
Have you read Cat's Cradle by Kurt Vonnegut? If not, you should, I think you would enjoy it.
ReplyDeleteLuke
HA!
ReplyDeleteYes, I've read all of Vonnegut's excursions.
There are so many who have pointed to absurdity.
Yet,alas, they seem to be immediately folded into it as a means of hiding it.
Thanks Luke!
Mike
Thanks Mike for being an open channel and firing away :)
ReplyDeleteYou're welcome Annie,
ReplyDeletemike
So in other words, "release the tiller"? _ _ _ _ _ _ _.
ReplyDeleteWhat "tiller"?
ReplyDeleteThere is none.
You've never had a hand on any "tiller."
Cute. Let "us" scare quote every-"thing"!
ReplyDelete"Usually. when we think of someone drawing a line. making their
stand, we think they committing themselves to an all-or-nothing battle: here and now. on this spot, live or die. That's the kind of ultimatum Brett was describing. She made it sound like a fight, like put up yer dukes, but it's really not. It's the end of fighting. the end of a lifelong struggle. Drawing this line doesn't mean battlestations, red alert, defcon one and all that. Its not that kind of battle. It means we have to lower our shields, not raise them. An objective observer might look at the vast majority of spiritual seekers today and classify them as spiritually self-lobotomized. They set out to find life and discover truth, and wind up sitting in a dark room repeating a meaningless syllable, eyes closed. brain silenced, convinced that
they're actually making a great journey. That's how easily and effectively we are undone, and it's because the enemy is within, running the show, redeploying all of our mental and emotional resources against us. Instead of adopting a warlike posture. we must, counter-intuitively. lower our shields and defenses. This seems confusing until we understand that we are both the protagonist and the antagonist in this conflict, both attacker and defender. This is the paradoxical nature of the struggle. We can't win by fighting. The very thing that fights. that resists, is the thing we seek to overthrow. Only by vanquishing ego can we prevail. Only in surrender can we find victory. This is the part so few get, and fewer get beyond. This is the part where everything starts sounding all sagely or zenny or Orwellian,
but that can't be helped. If you want to say that all religions and spiritual teachings share a core truth, it can only be this: Surrender is victory."
"we must, counter-intuitively. lower our shields and defenses"
ReplyDeleteYep...
And whenever anyone tells you what you "must" do...
...run like hell!
Rules are for fools, dude.
mike
So I must run like hell from anyone who tells me what I must do? Clearly this isn't advice as if "I" have the capacity to "decide", but a crude attempt of third-party programming, ruling.
ReplyDeleteI chose that passage for the sentence "This is the part where everything starts sounding all sagely or zenny or Orwellian, but that can't be helped." I'm eager for when you tire of channeling U.G. Krishnamurti and affirm something again.
"eager" are you?
ReplyDeleteIndeed...
...we're all eagerly awaiting something.
But we know NOT what (although we do enjoy guessing games)
Just stick to the rules, yo!
; )